Wednesday, June 01, 2005

Funny Comment

This comment was dropped on an old thread, by a boy calling himself "Heshy." I'm worried most of you missed it. It's a good example of what happens if you spend to much time in Brooklyn
DOV BEAR: First of all the Torah does consider abortion in the category of murder.We find in daf yomi Rabbi Mori was a grandson of Shmuel.Shmuels daughter was captured and raped by a goy and the child who was the offspring was Rabbi Mori.Later the goy too became a jew.So you see abortion is forbidden in case of rape.As far as homosexuality it is a very serious sin.Wherever you look you find that fact.Torah,Talmud,midrashim.

As far as life on other planets we as Jews know its a myth.There are no humans.animals or plants on other planets.Anyone who believes there are is a koifer,a heretic.Some of you are watching to many alien movies.As far as feminism it is more dangerous than terrorism.

America has the highest divorce rate in the world.Because feminism has corrupted society.It is not a coincedent that G-d created men taller than women.A woman must look up to a man.Otherwise she becomes revolting physically as well as characterwise.
Isn't this hysterical? It's crying out to be fisked, but where should we begin? So many mistakes, so little time.

Abortion: It's a tremendous oversimplification to say that the Torah considers abortion to be murder, as a number of fundamental issues are the subject of dispute. The Achronim don't agree. Some say (1) it is murder; others say (2) it is murder, but a Jew who kills a fetus is not liable for capital punishment; still others say (3) it isn't murder, but forbidden only on the grounds that it causes a deliberate injury to the mother. Additionally, these opinions depend on the phase of the pregnancy, and on the circumstances of the pregnancy and the welfare of the other. Many poskim permit abortion in the case of rape. The Christian may see this as a black and white issue. For the Torah Jew, it's very grey.

Homosexuality The Torah forbids the homosexual act, known as mishkav zakhar, but has nothing to say about homosexuality as a state of being or a personal inclination. The Torah also state no opinion on civil unions, and it seems obvious that Jews are safer when their government restrains itself from imposing religious rules on its citizens. I'd rather have no homosexuality, and if I was the Jewish king of the world, perhaps I'd eventually get around to doing something about it. Until moshiach comes, however, Jews are safer when the goverment commits itself to protecting our privacy.

Life on other planets Rabbi Chasdai Crescas (14th century) writes that nothing in the Torah outlook precludes the existence of life on other worlds. The verse "Your Kingdom is one which encompasses all worlds... (Psalms 145:13)" implies the existence of more than one world. The basic premise of the existence of extraterrestrial life is strongly supported by the Zohar. The Midrash teaches us that there are seven earths. Although the Ibn Ezra tries to argue that these refer to the seven continents, the Zohar clearly states that the seven are separated by a firmament and are inhabited. Although they are not inhabited by man, they are the domain of intelligent creatures.

Feminism It's clear from your mysogonistic remarks that you don't know what feminism is, and that, for some reason, it frightens you. So let me put your mind at ease: Breifly, feminism is a movement for the political, social, and educational equality of women with men. How can the Torah oppose that?

Anyway, Heshy, thanks for the laugh, and for the opportunity to point out your mistakes. I have to tell you though, welcome as you are to read the blog, DovBear might not be the best choice for you. With your view of the world, you may be more comfortable at Cross Currents.