Wednesday, July 09, 2014
Where do terrorist murderers come from?
According to the Haredi authorities quoted today in the J-Post the recipe for creating a terrorist murderer is something like this.
(1) Take young people who have been brought up with traditional religious values, values that unfortunately often include the idea that "we" are better, more human, more real, more vibrant, and more beloved by God than other people.
(2) Disconnect them from the religious mainstream, so they end up bored and on the margins of society.
(3) Ensure that they don't have educations or jobs skills so that their sense of hopelessness is profound. You want them to feel trapped, and that their lives have reached an impossible dead end.
(4) Toss in some mental illness, and innate aggressive tendencies. If the IQ is lower than normal that helps, too.
(5) The terrorist act of violence must then be triggered by some kind of trauma, like an act of serious injustice, the untimely death of a loved one, or a mood of national mourning or despair.
This, roughly, is how the sages quoted in the paper say our six OTD Haredi terrorists were created, and you know what - I think the reasoning is sound. And I think its likely that Palestinian terrorists are created according to a similar formula.
L:ET ME STATE THE OBVIOUS: Yes, Israeli society is denouncing the murder in ways that Palestinian society does not denounce murder. Yes, mainstream Palestenin authorities call for murders in a way that has no cognate on the Israeli side. But imagine there was no IDF, and imagine that three Israeli kids were kidnapped and murdered every few weeks....
(1) Take young people who have been brought up with traditional religious values, values that unfortunately often include the idea that "we" are better, more human, more real, more vibrant, and more beloved by God than other people.
(2) Disconnect them from the religious mainstream, so they end up bored and on the margins of society.
(3) Ensure that they don't have educations or jobs skills so that their sense of hopelessness is profound. You want them to feel trapped, and that their lives have reached an impossible dead end.
(4) Toss in some mental illness, and innate aggressive tendencies. If the IQ is lower than normal that helps, too.
(5) The terrorist act of violence must then be triggered by some kind of trauma, like an act of serious injustice, the untimely death of a loved one, or a mood of national mourning or despair.
This, roughly, is how the sages quoted in the paper say our six OTD Haredi terrorists were created, and you know what - I think the reasoning is sound. And I think its likely that Palestinian terrorists are created according to a similar formula.
L:ET ME STATE THE OBVIOUS: Yes, Israeli society is denouncing the murder in ways that Palestinian society does not denounce murder. Yes, mainstream Palestenin authorities call for murders in a way that has no cognate on the Israeli side. But imagine there was no IDF, and imagine that three Israeli kids were kidnapped and murdered every few weeks....
This just in: Murder isn't allowed as per Jewish law
I think the fact that the Haerdi authorities are busy letting everyone know that, hey now, you're not allowed to kill people, is the most perfect indictment of their educational system one could ever devise.
Saving Lives
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The fellow on the right, who looks like a Ger Chasid, and one other Chasid carries a woman to safety during an air raid siren.
(Update: this photo may be from a while ago.)
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We are the people.. rambling and unconnected thoughts on Jewish culture
...rambling and unconnected thoughts on Jewish culture
We are the people who don't mind disorder and disarray in our synagogues. Many of our shuls are cramped and poorly lit, with books, flyers and pamphlets littering the tables. We make no effort to beautify our places of public worship. No one minds if someone comes in and on his own authority rearranges the chairs. No effort is made to coordinate the design of the shelves with the design of the tables. The architecture of these places is at best boring, but more often thoughtless and at times sadistic. No attention is paid to how sound carries or how lighting can add atmosphere. Women and their place in these buildings are often afterthoughts. We claim to long for the re-establishment of what our books call the most beautiful building of its time and place; but for now we wait in squalor.
We are the people who swear that prayer succeeds, but our behavior belies this claim.. Day after day we receive messages from clerics who beg us to rattle the heavens with our chants and shouts. But actual services are taken less than seriously. You're not only permitted, but sometimes encouraged, to pick up something to read (sorry, I mean learn) during less important parts of the service. No one objects if someone sits in the back during with a cup of coffee. At a set point, during Shabbath prayers, all the men rush out to get their hats. At another set point, a minority of the men go out for a drink. When the gabbai personally beseeches God to heal our sick, we catch up on current events and nearly drown out his supplications. When its our turn to pray, the words are chanted, rather than said. No one tries to understand the magic formulas; the prayers aren't read the way one ordinarily tries to read something important and they aren't said the way one would recite a real supplication made to a real person; even the very best, most serious daveners only attempt to say the words fervently, preferably with brows furrowed and bodies swaying.
We are the people who claim to worship tradition and the old way of doing things. More often this means privileging one particular moment and one particular style or approach, over all the other moments, styles and approaches. Thus, some authorities are un-repentantly declared "not from our mesorah" when their ideas are found to conflict with the things "everybody knows" We make a fetish out of new things like upshurin and kabbalas shabbas while very old things like B'hab are neglected and forgotten. We think shabbas is about cholent, without seeming to realize its only a mess of peasant ingredients prepared rustically. The Talmud is full of examples of how the Sages were different in their behaviors and beliefs but the fantasy persists that men like the shockingly creative Rabbi Akiva and the profoundly humane Hillel were culturally heredim such as the type you might expect to find this afternoon in Beni Brak. We read of Jews who were still conducting business at the very second that Friday turned into Shabbos, of other Jews who were too drunk to keep the Rosh Chodesh signal fires burning, of Rabbis who forgot or misquoted or amended Tannaic material and still we tell ourselves they were all frumer than we are, when the very idea of "frumness" hadn't infected them at all.
In which I give myself a reminder.
Found on the social networks:
OK, sure, some people see it this way. But thinkers, as opposed to feelers, understand that what we say on blogs and Facebook has no cosmic value or meaning, and that a good point is a good point irrespective of who it facially seems to support. However, I count some "feelers" among my friends so I shall endeavor to bear in mind what he says here.
(Yes, of course this is the same old thing: Jingoism and chauvinism means you love Israel, while those advocating for peaceful and mutually beneficial solutions are self-hating scum. However, Josh does remind me that some who are in the grips of this delusion might otherwise be decent people, friends even, and if they're going through a rough time they are owed the simple courtesy of not being agitated, no matter how unreasonable their agitation may be.)
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Political advice and punditry, to the right or to the left, won't *really* practically help Israel. But there is an emotional weight to such opining. Standing on the sidelines on foreign soil, while the murderous enemy attacks? If you are lending credence to Israel's enemies and undermining Israel's positions (e.g. "they also have a narrative"), then this can be read as callousness and a lack of concern for your brethren. If you are supporting the Israeli position, even if you are being "jingoistic", you are expressing caring and support for your fellow Jew. So you are entitled to your opinions, but don't be a callous jerk.
(Yes, of course this is the same old thing: Jingoism and chauvinism means you love Israel, while those advocating for peaceful and mutually beneficial solutions are self-hating scum. However, Josh does remind me that some who are in the grips of this delusion might otherwise be decent people, friends even, and if they're going through a rough time they are owed the simple courtesy of not being agitated, no matter how unreasonable their agitation may be.)
Tuesday, July 08, 2014
Double standards
Ever notice how the people who say "if you don't live in Israel we don't want to hear your comments" are still happy to take your money, your prayers, your votes, your government's overwhelming support, and (almost always) they'll make an exception for right wing, jingoistic comments, too.
To be clear, I don't mind giving Israel money. I mind Israelis who tell me to stop commenting.
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To be clear, I don't mind giving Israel money. I mind Israelis who tell me to stop commenting.
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White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest on situation in Israel
White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest on situation in Israel:
We strongly condemn the continuing rocket fire into Israel and the deliberate targeting of civilians by terrorist organizations in Gaza. No country can accept rocket fire aimed at civilians, and we support Israel's right to defend itself against these vicious attacks.
And like clockwork, the people who never let facts impair their judgement and always respond to demonstrations of Obama's support for Israel with the words "about time" or "its just lip service" are once again saying "about time" or "its just lip service."
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If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel."
If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence
If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel."
I think there is some truth to this. But as famous as this maxim may be, it has two serious shortcomings.
First, it rests on two premises that have not been proven. 1) That Arabs are only interested in violence and 2) That Israelis are only interested in defense.
The full truth is some Arabs want peace, and some Israelis want war. I'll agree that MORE Arabs want war and MORE Israelis want peace, but why are you certain the peace loving Israelis would prevail over the war-mongering Israelis if the the Arabs were to put down their weapons? Perhaps the war-loving Israelis would find a way to continue the conflict, say, by discrediting Arab peace efforts or by goading Arabs into attacking. Its not impossible.
Second, there are some Israelis who want to take as much land from the Palestinians as possible. Don't even try to deny it. If the Arabs were to put down their weapons we wouldn't have a shooting war, that's true, but if the Israeli RW and religious parties persisted in their policies of land usurpations "peace" would continue to be elusive.
It comes down to this. I agree that if the Arabs stopped bombing etc, the IDF would stop their operations. No question about it. But would Israel stop usurping their land, and treating them like second class citizens and depriving them of rights and protections? Because absent that you may not have a war, but you don't have peace either.
Now I said the maxim has some truth to it so as tedious as this is, I wish to reiterate the obvious before I conclude: Most Israelis are non violent in nature. Almost all Israelis denounce terrorism and acts of violence against civilians in all forms. This is a crucial, glaringly obvious difference between Israelis and Arabs.
While Israelis may not be willing to withdraw from Arab lands, they aren't murderers. They aren't going to slaughter babies (unless a Hamas terrorist or missile launcher is nearby) and they aren't going to kidnap and shoot teenagers on purpose (unless the teenagers throw rocks at soldiers or otherwise clashes with Israeli authorities or happens to be in the proximity of others who are clashing) and they aren't going to pay pensions or give honors to people who kill civilians (unless the civilians were killed by IDF soldiers who were attempting to fulfill a mission) and they aren't going to trade for the release of people who kill civilians (unless those people are IDF soldiers).
The parentheticals are not my sly attempt to create equivalencies, by the way. In my opinion, slaughtering a baby while its sleeping in its crib is morally different (morally worse!) from killing a baby who happens to be in the proximity of a terrorist target. But from the perspective of the kid's mother its all the same...
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The Orthodox Jewish wedding is a disaster. What can be done?
The Orthodox Jewish wedding is a disaster. Its boring, predictable and designed so that only young people with energy can really enjoy themselves. The food is always the same. The music is always the same. The guests always behave the same way. Nothing about an Orthodox Jewish wedding stands out and nothing is memorable.
I'm horrified at the idea of having to spend tens of thousands of dollars on a party no one will enjoy or wish to attend. Is there anything we can do to fix this?
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Monday, July 07, 2014
Give them access to a lawyer!
I think its outrageous that the (accused) murderers of the Palestinian boy are being held with no access to lawyers. Its wrong when they do this to Palestinians. Its wrong when they do this to Jews. We want a clear, clean, legitimate confession from the actual perpetrators and I have no confidence that will occur if a lawyer for the defense isn't present during the interrogations.
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David Horovitz gets it exactly right in his new article at TOI
David Horovitz gets it exactly right in his new article at TOI. Money quote:
Israel is "better" than the Palestinian entity in many, meaningful ways.
For example, no Israeli of any authority or credibility will advocate to release the six men who murdered Muhammed Abu Khdeir. His murderers may receive private recognition and adulation from ordinary citizens, but they won't get any civil rewards or honors. And so on. There is much more, as everyone honest and moral knows.
But as I said we know all this. It doesn't need to be restated at every opportunity. It isn't news to anyone with an internet connection or a newspaper and a moral compass. More importantly, celebrating our differences isn't the way to a solution. As Horowitz persuasively argues Israel starts to heal itself not by reiterating the things that do and should justifiably make us proud, but by recognizing the ways in which Jews and Arabs are similar, not identical, but similar. Neither community has triumphed over base and destructive human impulses and recognizing this is the way toward understanding
"If we are to heal this nation, the killing of Muhammed Abu Khdeir must rid us of the illusion that we enjoy a distinctive moral superiority over our neighbors"To that, I want to add something important, but also glaringly obvious.
Israel is "better" than the Palestinian entity in many, meaningful ways.
For example, no Israeli of any authority or credibility will advocate to release the six men who murdered Muhammed Abu Khdeir. His murderers may receive private recognition and adulation from ordinary citizens, but they won't get any civil rewards or honors. And so on. There is much more, as everyone honest and moral knows.
But as I said we know all this. It doesn't need to be restated at every opportunity. It isn't news to anyone with an internet connection or a newspaper and a moral compass. More importantly, celebrating our differences isn't the way to a solution. As Horowitz persuasively argues Israel starts to heal itself not by reiterating the things that do and should justifiably make us proud, but by recognizing the ways in which Jews and Arabs are similar, not identical, but similar. Neither community has triumphed over base and destructive human impulses and recognizing this is the way toward understanding
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Sunday, July 06, 2014
Dehumanization
The reactions I'm seeing to the horrible news about who murdered the Palestenian teen have me completely mystified. Last week it was "Only Jews care about life" (while Facebook seethed with Jewish calls for genocide). Now its all, "Only Jews feel remorse after one of their own demonstrates he doesn’t care about life."
Guys you have to stop telling yourselves that Jews are completely and totally different. You have to stop pretending that only Jews feel remorse and guilt and regret when one of their own commits a terrible atrocity and you have to stop pretending that Jews never celebrate these atrocities or honor the people who commit them. Arabs felt remorse over the kidnappings and murder and, trust me, some Jews are happy about the revenge murder. The difference is that more of them tend to act one way and that more of us tend to act the other way but when you pretend and announce that the difference is one of kind rather than one of degree you, in your own small way, are part of the problem.
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Friday, July 04, 2014
A Middle Eastern July 4th riddle
Here is a July 4th riddle: How many of the grievances articulated by the founding fathers in the Decleration of Independance might be expressed, honestly and legitimately, by the Palestenians toward Israel?
The answer is "not many", but there are some:
If Israel were to stand down and back off, and remove its boot from the Palestenian neck, the result would be a garrison state, like Gaza, committed to endless attacks on Israeli population centers.
Unlike some of my fellow travlers, I get that. I understand the fear. I understand that imperatives of Security. I agree that, at least in the short term, a withdrawl will give bad Palestenian room and opportunity to do bad things. (Though I remind everyone that we make compromises with death for the sake of convenience all the time. For instance, we allow 30,000 people to die on the roads every year, for the sake of cars and commerce. Might it be ok to allow some similar number of people to die in other ways for the sake of Justice? I don't know, but its worth considering.)
Now, here's what my attackers on the right don't comprehend. That along with understanding that fear, and along with respecting the purest Israeli motives, and the legitimate and serious demands of Security, I also understand the Palestenian greivances. I understand how they have been mishandled and mistreated and I understand how that mistreatment can poisen a mind and make ordinary people can say and do terrible things.
I say this not to brag, but to explain myself: I can hold two contradictory ideas in my head at the same time, without feeling forced to reconcile them or needing to discredit either one.
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- He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
- For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
- For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
- For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
- For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
- For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
- He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
- He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
- He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
If Israel were to stand down and back off, and remove its boot from the Palestenian neck, the result would be a garrison state, like Gaza, committed to endless attacks on Israeli population centers.
Unlike some of my fellow travlers, I get that. I understand the fear. I understand that imperatives of Security. I agree that, at least in the short term, a withdrawl will give bad Palestenian room and opportunity to do bad things. (Though I remind everyone that we make compromises with death for the sake of convenience all the time. For instance, we allow 30,000 people to die on the roads every year, for the sake of cars and commerce. Might it be ok to allow some similar number of people to die in other ways for the sake of Justice? I don't know, but its worth considering.)
Now, here's what my attackers on the right don't comprehend. That along with understanding that fear, and along with respecting the purest Israeli motives, and the legitimate and serious demands of Security, I also understand the Palestenian greivances. I understand how they have been mishandled and mistreated and I understand how that mistreatment can poisen a mind and make ordinary people can say and do terrible things.
I say this not to brag, but to explain myself: I can hold two contradictory ideas in my head at the same time, without feeling forced to reconcile them or needing to discredit either one.
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Why we mourn Eyal, Gilad, and Naftali
A guest post by David Staum
I have a confession to make. I don't feel the death of the 3 boys in Israel as deeply as some of you seem to.
I have a confession to make. I don't feel the death of the 3 boys in Israel as deeply as some of you seem to.
Don't get me wrong. It's terribly sad. And the way they died is tragic and horrifying. And when I think of the parents, I realize I can't imagine what they're going through.
But I haven't cried. I haven't made tribute videos. I haven't felt like I'm in deep mourning. I haven't filled my Facebook wall with their pictures. I simply wrote "BDE", and expressed my deep and sincere sympathy for the families.
I didn't know these boys. They were strangers. As a fellow Jew, I feel deep sympathy for the families.. But I don't feel like I lost a family member myself.
I want to tell you about two other young people who lost their lives in Israel recently. Their names were Yishai Levy (11 years old) and his sister Sara Levy (10 years old). Somehow, their deaths hit me harder than those of Naftali, Eyal, and Gilad. Maybe it's their ages. Maybe it's because even though I didn't know them, they lived in Columbus, Ohio, where my wife and I lived for a few years and where she taught in the day school the children later attended. Or maybe it's the particularly heinous way in which they died - their mother sent them off to Israel for the summer to visit their father, her ex-Husband. Their divorce had been a particularly bad one, with deep bitterness. On the night they arrived, the father stabbed his own children and killed them.
Is the manner in which Yishai and Sara died more horrific than the way Naftali, Eyal, and Gilad did? There's no scale to measure such things. The mothers of all these young people are locked in deep grief right now. And there's no reason to make it any sort of competition.
But I do have a greater point to make. What I want to analyze today is not my own reaction, but the reaction of Jews in general, particularly Israelis and religiously involved Jews overseas. Why was one tragedy so front and center, and the other all but ignored? This isn't a polemic and I'm not calling anyone to task. But I think this question is worth exploring, because the answer may shed some light on how we view ourselves and our tribal allegiances.
Before I get to that, I'd like to tell you about a few of the other young people who were tragically murdered over the last few weeks.
Gina Burger, 16, Pennsylvania, USA
Murti & Pushpa, 14 & 15, Uttar Pradesh, India
Amanda Hill, 16, North Carolina, USA
Jed Coates, 18, Sydney, Australia
Cheyanne Bond, 17, New Jersey, USA
David Headlam, 18, London, UK
Michael Patton, 17, Illinois, USA
Yeliani Schwartz-Ojeda, 3, Florida, USA
Muhammad Hussein Abu Khdeir, 16, Jerusalem, Israel
Alexis Kellas, 9, Virginia, USA
Why aren't we crying over them? Why aren't we in deep mourning?
That's an easy one, unfortunately. It would be debilitating to spend all our time focused on all the tragedy in the world. Innocent people and innocent children are killed on a daily basis. We just don't have the emotional capacity to absorb it all. So what do we do? We naturally focus on when a "family member" is killed, someone who is part of our religious, social, or ethnic tribe. In the case of us Jews, that usually means someone else who is Jewish. And I'm taking no one to task for this. It's simply human nature, I wrote at the start of this post that I don't seem to be feeling the deaths of the three boys as much as some of you. But I definitely feel it more than I feel for anyone in the list above. When one of our own is killed, we mourn.
But what about when those who are killed ARE our own? A father and his 7 year old daughter drowned a couple of weeks ago in a terrible accident north of Tel Aviv. Why aren't we engaged in mass mourning for this little girl like we are for Naftali, Eyal, and Gilad?
One simple answer - accidents happen all the time. But the three boys were murdered, not killed in an accident. They were taken from us deliberately. So it's not simply the death of a young Jew that unites us in mourning, it's the heinousness of the manner in which they died. They were murdered in cold blood.
Then why aren't we engaged in the same mass mourning for Yishai and Sara Levy? They were Jews. They were killed in Israel. They were part of a religious community in the US and attended a Jewish day school. And they were murdered in a particularly heinous and disturbing manner. Why aren't we crying over their deaths to the same degree?
One answer is that the three boys were only killed after a couple of weeks of prayer and desperate hope, so there was a build-up. And when their bodies were found and all hope was lost, the dam burst and all the emotions came pouring out in mass grief.
But I don't think that's all there is to it. There's another factor, one that speaks to our self-identification and self-definition.
Naftali Fraenkel, Eyal Yifrach and Gilad Shaar weren't just anyone. They were young people taken before their time. And not just any young people, but members of OUR people, fellow Jews. And they were't killed just anywhere, they were killed in Israel, our homeland, where we should have a right to feel safe. They weren't just killed, they were murdered, and in a particularly heinous manner.
And finally, they weren't just brutally murdered, they were murdered by them.
The enemy.
The other.
A good part of our grief is anger. This wasn't a murder in isolation, but the latest in a long story of our enemies wanting us dead, wanting us out of what they view as their land. In our eyes, Gilad, Eyal, and Naftali represent all of us, We mourn because those who killed them wanted to make a political statement, and they viewed any Jew in their land as an enemy.
Our mass mourning is a mass cry of anger and defiance. It's an emotional thrust against the enemy.
Sara and Yishai Levy were killed in a horrific manner, by their own father, A father who, we must assume, had deep emotional and psychological problems. But the greater conflict in that case was only between a father and mother in a bitter divorce dispute. It was not nation against nation, people against people.
The three boys, however, are seen as representatives of all of us. We are all engaged in a struggle for our land. Almost all engaged Jews believe in the right of Israel to exist, only disagreeing on where the borders should be drawn. And we see the boys' murders as an attempt to push us out, to tell us that we have no right to be there, that we have no claim to nationhood, and that Jewish blood is cheap.
We see it as an act of war.
And when one is attacked in an act of war, one circles the wagons and strikes back against the enemy, both physically, as Netanyahu is doing, and rhetorically, as we have all seen in mass media and social media. That is why some have reacted in unfortunate calls for mass reprisal.
Without the larger context of murder and national struggle, most of us wouldn't have been mourning them at all. If Eyal, Gilad, and Naftali had been killed in a traffic accident on the very same road where they were taken, the mourners would have only included their families and friends. We, strangers, wouldn't even know their names. There would have been no funeral with tens of thousands of people. There would have been no tribute videos, foreign representatives of diaspora communities paying shiva calls, no mass grief.
It's been only four days since we learned of their deaths and this is the first Shabbat since then. We will turn off our cellphones, TV's, radios, and computers. We will be disengaged from the national mourning for the first time, engaging only with our families and neighbors.
Let us take a deep breath and for just a few hours, try to disengage the greater context of how they died from the actual loss. We wouldn't have known their names without the greater context, but since we do, we can try to mourn them and their actual lives. These were 3 promising young men taken from us far too soon. Let's try to mourn their loss the way their families are.
When we sit at our Shabbat tables, let's remember that for 3 families in Israel, there will be an empty seat, and remember the boys. While we do that, we can also think of Karen Levy, the mother of Yishai and Sara, looking at the empty seats at her Shabbat table. And if we can spare a few moments, let's also think of the families of Gina, Murti, Pushpa, Amanda, Jed, Cheyanne, David, Michael, Yeliani, Muhammad, and Alexis, all looking at the empty seats at their own dinner tables.
Let us daven for peace, for a world where no more young people need die, anywhere.
Shabbat Shalom
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Thursday, July 03, 2014
Satmar on the murdered teens
A man should never stand in a place of danger and declare, ‘A miracle will befall me’; perhaps a miracle will not befall him. And if a miracle does befall him he suffers thereby a reduction from his merits - BT Ta'anith 20b
As you know, I am no fan of Satmar, or its petty, dueling despots, but I can't help wondering if His Excellency, the Duke of KJ, had yesterday's Daf in mind when he criticized the parents of our murdered teens for choosing to live in a lion's den?
“…Who gave them permission for themselves and for their children to live and to learn Torah in the midst of the lion’s den? To put their lives at risk, and the lives of their families at risk? It is all because of the evil inclanation and the desire for Jews to inhabit the entire State of Israel. It is Zionism for the mehadrin min hamehadrin It is incumbent upon us to say that these parents are guilty. They caused the deaths of their sons and they must repent for their actions.…
Strong words, but he's not blaming Zionism as some have said.
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